Thursday, May 06, 2004
Australian National UFO Conference 2004
Sydney
June 5 & 6 2004
Looking at the two day conference program does not inspire confidence. Some of the speakers are just no good for the full on conference environment. I can think of another eight Australian speakers who would offer better if not more interesting data. So on face value I see no reason for any enquiring mind to attend the full program, but and that is a big but, some speakers are value & worth the effort. For those of us who live some distance from Sydney the show is a no show. It is becoming more important when groups run conferences to have keynote speakers, so the USA speakers may (I hope) carry the day, the Australian lot are not that impressive.
Before I look at each speaker it is also important to remember the effort and time that must go into making such functions work and so I congratulate UFORNSW, they always come through with something for the public to look at.
The list below is roughly in order, so how do they stack?
DEBBIE PAYNE
AUFORN - AURA - SA
Investigator and Researcher of the AUFORN "Disclosure"
Paper - "THE AUSTRALIAN DISCLOSURE PROJECT- WHAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS ON UFOs"
I must say I have never met, seen or heard Debbie so I am making a value judgment with little supporting evidence. The only thing I have to go on is Debbies past research work and her papers title (For this event).
First impressions are "This will be a waste of time". What is new in the Government files or archives, what can she tell us that has not been seen or given to us by the Government? I find it surprising that Debbie would have anything new. From what I have seen from her work on the Oz Disclosure web page and newsletter, they have found nothing new at the archives. And the items they have posted are easy to get, right off the NAA web page. It is all so dull. Governments have a way of killing the subject, we all know that, so by looking at the very poor paper trail in Government Departments will alway give us nothing. As we have all found out, you can get 6000 page on UFOs from the files and learn nothing.
No Government is going to disclose good UFO data until they need to, and from what I have seen, when they do produce some paperwork, it is short and dull. The good data went with the original investigator. I have been told by other UFO researchers the files are not great because they have been cleaned out.
So this one will be a Yawn.
REX GILROY
BLUE MOUNTAINS UFO RESEARCH - NSW
Author of "Mysterious Australia", "Pyramids in the Pacific" & "Giants of the Dreamtime"
Paper - "ALIEN DREAMTIME - ABORIGINAL ABDUCTIONS PAST AND PRESENT"
Not Rex again!
This man can come up with the strangest explanations for a rock! He seems to find odd shapes in rock and in a blink of an eye links the formation to some distant past civilisation. I have no idea why other researchers do not challenge Rex in regards to the over the wall assumptions, but they don't?
He also claims that there is a UFO base in the Blue Mountains, I will comment on that at some other time, yet he does come up with odd ball thoughts and concepts. He seems to be a genuine sole but if you are looking for mana then purchase a hammer and every hour hit you're self on the head, you will learn more from that than hours with Rex.
That camera he has tightly strung around his neck has stopped the blood to his brain, please will someone tell him to take it off, get something smaller Rex.
Another Yawn.
SHERYL GOTTSCHALL, Clin. Hyp
UFORQ - QLD
Secretary, Australian Centre for UFO Studies/ Public Relations Officer, UFO Research Qld
Paper - "EXPLORING OPEN CONTACT"
Never heard Sheryl speak, I have read her papers posted up on the UFORQLD web page and some of her ideas in other magazines. Sheryl is always fresh and challenges the norm so you will get something out of her talk. One important function Sheryl does well is to provide the interested public with conference summaries. If you can not get there then her accounts are a great follow up read.
I did note that her husband Martin has had his name taken off the speakers list that is a disappointment.
No problem.
BUDD HOPKINS
USA
Paper - "SIGHT UNSEEN- IMPORTANT NEW ABDUCTION CASES"
- Involving medical evidence - will bring copies of new book "SIGHT UNSEEN"
Yes I have seen Bud speak and he was very good. Would I go back.... no. He is one of those speakers that once seen, then that is enough. But if it is your first contact with Budd then yes!
A must for the new.
LESLIE KEAN
USA - USA based UFO Researcher who is suing NASA re freedom of information regarding the Kecksburgh UFO Crash.
Paper - "THE COVER UP OF THE KECKSBURG UFO CRASH INCIDENT IN 1965 IN THE USA"
Never seen Leslie talk, little to help the blogger, but if his subject is on Kecksburg, then Leslie will be a must see. I hope he has some good visuals/slides.
DIANE HARRISON
AUFORN - QLD
Co Editor of "The Australasian Ufologist Magazine & Editor of Hard Evidence Magazine
Paper - "AUSTRALIAN UFO FOOTAGE & PHOTOS OF 2000-2004"
Oh!
This will be as interesting as a rain soaked day. Apart from being a Co Editor and a all round organiser I have no idea how we will know more about the UFO subject after listening to Diane. Even with the power of a public magazine to vent her ideas I never read anything that is original or slightly helpful.
Take tea and come back after.
GEORGE SIMPSON
AUFORN - VIC
Victorian State Director AUFORN and columnist of "Now Then" - The Australasian Ufologist Magazine
Paper - "WHATS BEEN GOING ON IN VICTORIA - UFO CASES FROM VICTORIA"
Another Oh...
I have seen George talk in Melbourne at VUFORS nights, in his past life before he was heaved out of that organisation (VUFORS). If you read his page in the Australasian Ufologist Magazine, then you will understand. The man does not have one original or fresh thought, the data is dull and blahhh!
I have been told that people on a news group recently watch George make an ass of himself. George's knowledge of cameras, especially digital is just about nil and you may not find that important until you realise he sells cameras for a living. The point, if you don't know your job how can you talk about a hobby, quite odd. George seems to be taking a more "get out of Melbourne" attitude over the last year that's a positive effort. Recently he was invited to Sydney to speak at a UFORNSW meeting, and... well that meeting would have put you too sleep. What can I say?
Thus... he seems to be a good down to earth type of guy, but hell, not conference material.
Stay home.
MARY RODWELL
ACERN - WA
Author of the book "Awakening" & Director of ACERN WA
Paper - "CONTACT & THE EVIDENCE FOR STAR CHILDREN GENESIS & COMMUNICATION"
Yes, more of Mary. I find her very interesting, for some reason she acts very shy and will not mix in with any public debate on the WWW/WEB, but that is how she is, not a bad trait. Mary has been on a few times in the past, but you will find her talk's always clear, visual and informative. However, her "Star Children" support/theory is right out in the "land of odd''. Just listen, you decide.
First timers then no problems if you have seen Mary presentation then save the money, get her book.
BILL CHALKER
UFOIC - NSW
Author of "The OZ Files"
Paper - "STRANGE ODYSSEY - RESEARCHING THE IMPOSSIBLE"
Please no more Bill Chalker. What is wrong with the organisers of some of our conferences, he is on every show we have ever had - This man is a serial space taker - odd cloth & colours, old slides, old data and a computer Power Point display that does not seem to work? How he gets his name on the conference agenda is a mystery. I have listen to Bill on at least 4 or 5 occasions in a conference environment but twice is enough five is murder. The title of his paper gives you a hint that it's going to be a bore. It's about time we got him a seat in the audience.
A good reason not to be in Sydney.
WILL THIS END
I hope it works for the organiser's sake, but I would say it will be the same old 50 to 100 hard edge followers, the post photographs & reports will glow but in the end we will be no further down the road. Next time get the best speaker in OZ! So that is your lot, as I have said, it is my opinion that you should save your money, if not then be very selective and thank God I am not near you but home with a good book.
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Sydney
June 5 & 6 2004
Looking at the two day conference program does not inspire confidence. Some of the speakers are just no good for the full on conference environment. I can think of another eight Australian speakers who would offer better if not more interesting data. So on face value I see no reason for any enquiring mind to attend the full program, but and that is a big but, some speakers are value & worth the effort. For those of us who live some distance from Sydney the show is a no show. It is becoming more important when groups run conferences to have keynote speakers, so the USA speakers may (I hope) carry the day, the Australian lot are not that impressive.
Before I look at each speaker it is also important to remember the effort and time that must go into making such functions work and so I congratulate UFORNSW, they always come through with something for the public to look at.
The list below is roughly in order, so how do they stack?
DEBBIE PAYNE
AUFORN - AURA - SA
Investigator and Researcher of the AUFORN "Disclosure"
Paper - "THE AUSTRALIAN DISCLOSURE PROJECT- WHAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS ON UFOs"
I must say I have never met, seen or heard Debbie so I am making a value judgment with little supporting evidence. The only thing I have to go on is Debbies past research work and her papers title (For this event).
First impressions are "This will be a waste of time". What is new in the Government files or archives, what can she tell us that has not been seen or given to us by the Government? I find it surprising that Debbie would have anything new. From what I have seen from her work on the Oz Disclosure web page and newsletter, they have found nothing new at the archives. And the items they have posted are easy to get, right off the NAA web page. It is all so dull. Governments have a way of killing the subject, we all know that, so by looking at the very poor paper trail in Government Departments will alway give us nothing. As we have all found out, you can get 6000 page on UFOs from the files and learn nothing.
No Government is going to disclose good UFO data until they need to, and from what I have seen, when they do produce some paperwork, it is short and dull. The good data went with the original investigator. I have been told by other UFO researchers the files are not great because they have been cleaned out.
So this one will be a Yawn.
REX GILROY
BLUE MOUNTAINS UFO RESEARCH - NSW
Author of "Mysterious Australia", "Pyramids in the Pacific" & "Giants of the Dreamtime"
Paper - "ALIEN DREAMTIME - ABORIGINAL ABDUCTIONS PAST AND PRESENT"
Not Rex again!
This man can come up with the strangest explanations for a rock! He seems to find odd shapes in rock and in a blink of an eye links the formation to some distant past civilisation. I have no idea why other researchers do not challenge Rex in regards to the over the wall assumptions, but they don't?
He also claims that there is a UFO base in the Blue Mountains, I will comment on that at some other time, yet he does come up with odd ball thoughts and concepts. He seems to be a genuine sole but if you are looking for mana then purchase a hammer and every hour hit you're self on the head, you will learn more from that than hours with Rex.
That camera he has tightly strung around his neck has stopped the blood to his brain, please will someone tell him to take it off, get something smaller Rex.
Another Yawn.
SHERYL GOTTSCHALL, Clin. Hyp
UFORQ - QLD
Secretary, Australian Centre for UFO Studies/ Public Relations Officer, UFO Research Qld
Paper - "EXPLORING OPEN CONTACT"
Never heard Sheryl speak, I have read her papers posted up on the UFORQLD web page and some of her ideas in other magazines. Sheryl is always fresh and challenges the norm so you will get something out of her talk. One important function Sheryl does well is to provide the interested public with conference summaries. If you can not get there then her accounts are a great follow up read.
I did note that her husband Martin has had his name taken off the speakers list that is a disappointment.
No problem.
BUDD HOPKINS
USA
Paper - "SIGHT UNSEEN- IMPORTANT NEW ABDUCTION CASES"
- Involving medical evidence - will bring copies of new book "SIGHT UNSEEN"
Yes I have seen Bud speak and he was very good. Would I go back.... no. He is one of those speakers that once seen, then that is enough. But if it is your first contact with Budd then yes!
A must for the new.
LESLIE KEAN
USA - USA based UFO Researcher who is suing NASA re freedom of information regarding the Kecksburgh UFO Crash.
Paper - "THE COVER UP OF THE KECKSBURG UFO CRASH INCIDENT IN 1965 IN THE USA"
Never seen Leslie talk, little to help the blogger, but if his subject is on Kecksburg, then Leslie will be a must see. I hope he has some good visuals/slides.
DIANE HARRISON
AUFORN - QLD
Co Editor of "The Australasian Ufologist Magazine & Editor of Hard Evidence Magazine
Paper - "AUSTRALIAN UFO FOOTAGE & PHOTOS OF 2000-2004"
Oh!
This will be as interesting as a rain soaked day. Apart from being a Co Editor and a all round organiser I have no idea how we will know more about the UFO subject after listening to Diane. Even with the power of a public magazine to vent her ideas I never read anything that is original or slightly helpful.
Take tea and come back after.
GEORGE SIMPSON
AUFORN - VIC
Victorian State Director AUFORN and columnist of "Now Then" - The Australasian Ufologist Magazine
Paper - "WHATS BEEN GOING ON IN VICTORIA - UFO CASES FROM VICTORIA"
Another Oh...
I have seen George talk in Melbourne at VUFORS nights, in his past life before he was heaved out of that organisation (VUFORS). If you read his page in the Australasian Ufologist Magazine, then you will understand. The man does not have one original or fresh thought, the data is dull and blahhh!
I have been told that people on a news group recently watch George make an ass of himself. George's knowledge of cameras, especially digital is just about nil and you may not find that important until you realise he sells cameras for a living. The point, if you don't know your job how can you talk about a hobby, quite odd. George seems to be taking a more "get out of Melbourne" attitude over the last year that's a positive effort. Recently he was invited to Sydney to speak at a UFORNSW meeting, and... well that meeting would have put you too sleep. What can I say?
Thus... he seems to be a good down to earth type of guy, but hell, not conference material.
Stay home.
MARY RODWELL
ACERN - WA
Author of the book "Awakening" & Director of ACERN WA
Paper - "CONTACT & THE EVIDENCE FOR STAR CHILDREN GENESIS & COMMUNICATION"
Yes, more of Mary. I find her very interesting, for some reason she acts very shy and will not mix in with any public debate on the WWW/WEB, but that is how she is, not a bad trait. Mary has been on a few times in the past, but you will find her talk's always clear, visual and informative. However, her "Star Children" support/theory is right out in the "land of odd''. Just listen, you decide.
First timers then no problems if you have seen Mary presentation then save the money, get her book.
BILL CHALKER
UFOIC - NSW
Author of "The OZ Files"
Paper - "STRANGE ODYSSEY - RESEARCHING THE IMPOSSIBLE"
Please no more Bill Chalker. What is wrong with the organisers of some of our conferences, he is on every show we have ever had - This man is a serial space taker - odd cloth & colours, old slides, old data and a computer Power Point display that does not seem to work? How he gets his name on the conference agenda is a mystery. I have listen to Bill on at least 4 or 5 occasions in a conference environment but twice is enough five is murder. The title of his paper gives you a hint that it's going to be a bore. It's about time we got him a seat in the audience.
A good reason not to be in Sydney.
WILL THIS END
I hope it works for the organiser's sake, but I would say it will be the same old 50 to 100 hard edge followers, the post photographs & reports will glow but in the end we will be no further down the road. Next time get the best speaker in OZ! So that is your lot, as I have said, it is my opinion that you should save your money, if not then be very selective and thank God I am not near you but home with a good book.
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